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Postby Valerie » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:27 am

friadoc wrote:
Valerie wrote:I...
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I don't know who I feel worse for right now.

The way that I read it, Karen... may be regretting what she's saying? And that would explain the tears?

You guys are probably right, though.
That she realizes how close she came to losing everything, and that's why she's crying.

But I don't know, I read it as a guilt thing.
Because we all do know that Karen feels bad about a lot of this.

And... I don't know.

But I hope Aggie's okay after this.
And I hope the title "suicide run" doesn't indicate that she's going to do something stupid because of this.


Aggie, I think, has too strong a sense of self and life to do something as petty, selfish and weak as suicide. But, that's my view on suicide.

As for Karen, I'm of the mind that she's crying because she almost lost it all and in realizing that she didn't she's unleashing that pained fury on who almost took it all from her, possibly the only person who can take it from her. If she is crying because she's doing bad things for petty reasons, well then it just sucks to be here then.

I'd dislike Karen a lot less if she was doing bad things for selfish reasons and didn't regret it, her regretting it shows that she knows that she is doing wrong, yet she continues to willfully do it, which makes her a real crappy human being.


It at least shows that she's human.
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Postby Hasedoki » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:27 am

Gil Hamilton wrote:10 Quatloos is the person in the car is Penny.

Karen's eyes in panel 4 suggest otherwise. Still, there are any number of people I'd enjoy seeing step out of the car.

Like, say, the principal. :twisted:
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Postby friadoc » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:29 am

Karp wrote:Still don't hate Karen.


Like her more now, actually. She's 100% right. Aggie is a poser, Aggie did go against her own morals, Aggie was taking a situation that only peripherally had to do with her and making herself the center of it, and Karen does deserve credit for not giving Marshall crap about his running with Aggie up to this point.

I mean, it WAS rude to call like that, and it's never helpful to say that someone will ALWAYS fail, and she's wrong about Aggie being a slut, but other than that, no real problem.


Seriously, was this supposed to be a puppy-kicking moment? I don't feel like I'm being obstinate for continuing to not hate Karen. I just feel like she's sympathetic and she's right now, she's right. Is it me?


To each their own, but honestly, Karen is being a foul piece of humanity of the moment, whether or not Aggie just tried to steal her boyfriend. A good person, in the same position, doesn't unload with that my vitriol and bile, that's reserved for the bitter person who is hanging on by their fingernails.

Karen totally comes across as the cult type person, she's isolating Marshal from anyone who cares about him, in the slightest, until his only connection to the world is that one person, Karen. Aggie screwed up, in reaction to Marshal saying one of those open, generalist statements about no one else offering him something like that. It was raw, emotional, badly timed and stupid, but it was in no way deserving of that much venom.

Karen is scared because she almost go caught, she almost lost it all, and she needs to lash out at someone like the vainglorious little snit that she is. She is, hands down, not a good person, and if you wanna like a character like that, well it's your call and more power to you.

But, the kind of person Karen is turning into is the kind of person that cause so much drama in high school that bad things happen, usually to everyone around them.
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Postby Valerie » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:29 am

cajeck wrote:
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Heh, a little to slow on the draw, so I'll just say here what I said there: That was quick. I wonder if she's actually in the vehicle that's shown in panel 1.

It sure seems that way.

I'm not really sure how Karen could've set this situation up at all. It doesn't really seem like the kind of thing you can consciously plan for. Maybe she was just following Aggie/Marshall around?


I don't know, if she did follow them around, shouldn't any of them notice? or at least Mar, who's with Karen for a long time and should have known her car. Also, I don't think Karen knew Aggie's going to confess to Mar. What, you think she's been spying at her EVERYTIME they jog together?

Which doesn't seem too out of character, I think.


Well I didn't really think Karen actually planned for this to happen. But I DO think it was possible for her to follow Aggie and Marshall around. Maybe just for their jogs, or maybe since she's been aware that Aggie likes Marsh. I mean, she's just that paranoid. And sad. And bitchy.

All she'd have to do would be to borrow someone else's car. Put on dark clothes and shades and drive at a distance. I bet Marsh and Aggie had a set route to take every morning, so she'd be right there, staking it out.


Ha, I dunno. XD
She's a little evil and a lot insecure, but not a crazy stalker.
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Postby Wendy » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:30 am

Hasedoki wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:10 Quatloos is the person in the car is Penny.

Karen's eyes in panel 4 suggest otherwise. Still, there are any number of people I'd enjoy seeing step out of the car.

Like, say, the principal. :twisted:


But she's not wearing a seat belt. 8D
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Postby Pyrokin » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:30 am

The chapter title 'Suicide run' really makes me think this was planned.
Metaphorically, Aggie did just commit suicide.

-crosses fingers for Penny in the car-
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Postby friadoc » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:30 am

Valerie wrote:It at least shows that she's human.


True, just not a very good human.
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Postby ekstrapiksels » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:32 am

At this point in the game, it's safe to say I dislike all of the characters. :(
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Postby Trefle » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:33 am

@friadoc & Valerie : I don't...you know, think she's feeling guilty. Or regretting any of the things she'd done.
I mean, why?
I don't think she feels bad with Aggie, especially since she is the right party right now (no matter how bad she is on the other area)
but it did show that she's human.

@Hasedoki : ....and then The Principal turns out to be Mephisto! And then we'll switch to a new chapter : Penny & Aggie, One More Day?
*runs*
I hope it's Penny. Or someone else. Aggie need some HELP right now.

@cajeck : yup, that's why I said it's not too OOC. Since I think the time between her knowing Aggie loves Mar and Aggie's plan isn't that long?
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Postby Pyrokin » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:33 am

Wendy wrote:
Hasedoki wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:10 Quatloos is the person in the car is Penny.

Karen's eyes in panel 4 suggest otherwise. Still, there are any number of people I'd enjoy seeing step out of the car.

Like, say, the principal. :twisted:


But she's not wearing a seat belt. 8D

How can you tell?
All I can see is a door handle, a side-mirror, interior lining and part of a steering wheel.
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Postby friadoc » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:35 am

ekstrapiksels wrote:At this point in the game, it's safe to say I dislike all of the characters. :(


I like Lisa, but I'm starting to think that I'm an odd duck on that one, too. Nick's not bad, either, for being someone's dad and Katy-Ann does mostly okay, although she needs to get a wider perspective on life, which I think college will do for her. I like Sara, too, as she's someone whose grown a lot through the series, matured here and there and is more comfortable in her skin.
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Postby Jennifer » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:38 am

Trefle wrote:I don't think she feels bad with Aggie, especially since she is the right party right now (no matter how bad she is on the other area)

Karen's right?

She's pissed because she almost got caught and she's an insecure little girl. There's nothing right about that.

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Postby Wendy » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:38 am

Pyrokin wrote:
Wendy wrote:
Hasedoki wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:10 Quatloos is the person in the car is Penny.

Karen's eyes in panel 4 suggest otherwise. Still, there are any number of people I'd enjoy seeing step out of the car.

Like, say, the principal. :twisted:


But she's not wearing a seat belt. 8D

How can you tell?
All I can see is a door handle, a side-mirror, interior lining and part of a steering wheel.


Karen's not wearing a seat belt in the 4th panel, so maybe it's not her driving? XD I dunno. Maybe it is her and she's just not the type to wear them. In which case I hope she gets too distracted glaring at Aggie and runs into a streetlight and conks her snakey face into the steering wheel. :twisted:
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Postby Pyrokin » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:40 am

Wendy wrote:
Pyrokin wrote:
Wendy wrote:
Hasedoki wrote:
Gil Hamilton wrote:10 Quatloos is the person in the car is Penny.

Karen's eyes in panel 4 suggest otherwise. Still, there are any number of people I'd enjoy seeing step out of the car.

Like, say, the principal. :twisted:


But she's not wearing a seat belt. 8D

How can you tell?
All I can see is a door handle, a side-mirror, interior lining and part of a steering wheel.


Karen's not wearing a seat belt in the 4th panel, so maybe it's not her driving? XD I dunno. Maybe it is her and she's just not the type to wear them. In which case I hope she gets too distracted glaring at Aggie and runs into a streetlight and conks her snakey face into the steering wheel. :twisted:

Or runs over Marshall.
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Postby Valerie » Wed Oct 29, 2008 12:40 am

friadoc wrote:
Valerie wrote:It at least shows that she's human.


True, just not a very good human.


Well, it's difficult to decide what makes a human "good" anyway.
And I think that feeling guilt is a step there.
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