Gholateg wrote:So... Yeah this solidifies my Jade dislike pretty hard right here. I'm dreadfully hoping Lisa has more class then to bed the witless personification of lack of empathy, especially since her recent adventures in trying to "bang things better" haven't worked at all. And Lisa is FULLY AWARE that she looked at him like he had a second head. Either it was because the note came out of left field, or because she finds Ronnie utterly unattractive and is trying to cover it, I'm sure Lisa is *aware* of how her reaction could be construed in the last two panels. Unlike Jade's "Send my 'Let's fuck!' note to this hot girl for me, guy I've never said four words too." I'm expecting either another explosion of repressed anger or an utter "Banner hitchhiking at the end of the Incredible Hulk" shutdown from Ronnie at this.
Ronnie really, REALLY needs to get a friend. Or if not a friend, then a way to vent all that rage. Boxing, weight lifting... Something that uses that rage constructively. Or he's going to break down even harder and explode. Been there, still fighting it. I don't like Ronnie, I don't like how it seems he's a mirror to the dark places in my head, but I understand him, and I can't dislike him either.
The weight loss thing someone brought up before, is REALLY hard without a support group if you're that big. Gyms are TERRIBLE for big people. You feel like your surrounded by good looking people, the gym bunnies always titter and snark at you. You can't last as long as others do who have been actually working out. It's kind of built around making you feel like a failure.
And what's the point? Even if you power through it all, drop the weight and put on muscle, they're still going to see you as an outsider, you'll still be shunned. You'll just be hungry and shunned and look like THEM. And even if they don't shun you.. do you really want to be like them? Making fun of some other poor sod who hates their life like you do, to make yourself feel better? That's what you'll be, just another asshole in a sea of assholes, so why bother putting in the work when I'm already a terrible person?
When there's no one to remind you that you are worth something, that you ARE a good person, it's easier to just give in and BE that terrible person everyone seems to agree you are.
Sooo... Jade makes one mistake and suddenly she's the worst person in the world and doesn't deserve a relationship, even a casual fuckbuddy one, but Ronnie has been NOTHING but unpleasant in all the strips we've seen him in (despite the fact that we actually have yet to see any situation where he's been mistreated) and we're supposed to pity him? Jade isn't empathic because she tried to be friendly despite the death glare she was being sent, but Ronnie doesn't realize that everyone he's talked to (in the strips we've seen him in) has actually been perfectly friendly to him, and this is justified?
I do feel sorry for Ronnie, because as someone said, feelings like that aren't created in a vacuum. But so far all we've seen is that he wants people to be his friends without actually putting any effort into the process himself. He's extremely unpleasant to the people he's around, whether they're nice to him or not, and then acts like he's the victim when they don't want to be around that.
And yes, I can empathize with that; I went through it myself. I was a deeply unpleasant person to be around in high school and guess what? That made people not want to be around me. I get that he's paranoid, I get that he's obviously been kicked a lot, but that doesn't mean that his attitude is justified and that doesn't make Jade a terrible person.
As for being rude: She asked him to give it to Lisa when he had the chance
, not 'drop what you're doing and go give this to Lisa now'. Presumably, he's in a position to see her first; perhaps she's even unwilling to give the note in person and give Lisa a chance to reject her to her face. Whatever her reason, all she asked was a small favor, one that he could have refused fairly easily and probably she would have just shrugged, said okay, and gone off to find someone else.
On the next page, she realizes that she's somehow offended him, she rushes to apologize- that is not the action of someone who is oblivious to anyone else's feelings.
And yes, she did look at him in horror. Because he's a complete stranger who used what could be easily interpreted as a rude greeting, who just handed her a note asking for sex. Wouldn't YOU be horrified? (And yes, Ronnie can misinterpret her look, but since she could be smiling and friendly and he could STILL misinterpret that for the negative, how is this Lisa's fault