One quote-heavy post, coming up!
timemonkey wrote:Nice to see he's still needlessly unpleasant for no real reason.
IT'S NOT FOR NO GODDAMN REASON.
You get enough people, on a daily basis, mocking and belittling you, your looks, your dress, your speech, any and everything about you, I'd like to see your ass force a smile onto your face and pretend everything's booze and hookers in your life.
Hey, now! I've done that! (In fact, I still do that any time my day is less than great. [Most days are great])
Tamar wrote:Agreeing strongly here with Adrishiana and Dude. That certain behaviour (in this case, surliness, excessive suspicion and rudeness) may be understandable does not make it justifiable.
CEO reversed this already to a form I'm more comfortable with. Either way, you're right, as are Adri and Dude. He most likely does have a reason to act the way he does (very few people decide to be rude for no reason). Doesn't mean he has a right to treat other people like that.
timemonkey wrote:Been there, done that, decided it wasn't worth the pain and paranoia weren't worth it. If you go into every situation with a bad attitude and expecting the worst that's all you get from people.
So when you decided it wasn't worth it, you just stopped/changed the way you think? (snapping fingers optional)
Alice Macher wrote:In other words, I'm waiting to see what more we learn about Ronnie's background before coming to conclusions as to whose "fault" it is, if anyone's or anything's, that he's the way he is today.
Didn't feel like quoting the whole post, so...
Yeah, I'm really looking forward to finding out what happened, and when, and who, and all the rest. Cause in personal experience, it takes years of shit to become that.. jaded? (I'm not looking at you, Jade.)
Also, with regard to this:
CEOIII wrote:I'd like to see your ass force a smile onto your face
...as a matter of fact, while it may not be easy to do, and may not (especially in the case of major depressive disorder and similar conditions) be effective all on its own, some mental health professionals do
recommend "faking it until you make it" when it comes to such things as greeting people you know with a smile, meeting new people and making friends. The idea being that if you can manage, even to a limited extent at first, to act
cheerful and pleasant, you may eventually find you're no longer acting.
Again, that's not a cure-all; it may not work for everyone, and it's not a substitute for other approaches (medical, social, nutritional/fitness, or spiritual) to feeling better about oneself. But there is something to it.
It is a way of coping, for sure. (Hey, I coped with it!) However, there are a couple of difficulties with the approach. First is that it's so damn difficult to start doing, when you expect to be kicked to curb until you look like Jagger (no offence, sir Mick!) and the second is that once you "made it" it's even more difficult to stop "faking it", because
a)by then you're used to it, and
b) that's what worked in the first place, and if you stop pretending, what if you find yourself in the first place again?
On a happier, non-Ronnie-related, note: What a power couple Lisa and Jade could be if they hooked up! I can see four possible reactions: Either you love them, love to hate them, hate to love them, or hate them but can't help but love them.