[2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Valerie » Mon Feb 20, 2012 12:53 am

Captain LeBubbles wrote:
Valerie wrote:Also, as a QUILTBAG forum, I want a thread dedicated to knowledge about every letter! D: Just to help some of the slightly less enlightened of us catch up. Like me, with my inability to know wtf is up with intersexualitydomness.


I'd be up for an 'A' thread. Statistically I know I'm not the only one, but it's hard not to feel that way when I can't find any of the others.

And I too would like to know more about intersexyness(?).


*snickers* "Intersexyness."

The closest label I've found for myself might be demisexual. That's an asexuality wiki, by the way.
It's either that or I'm bisexual with a pretty low sex drive.
Except I don't really have that low of a sex drive because I really like sexytimes with my husband.
SO I DON'T KNOW. If I like you, I like you, end of story. D:
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Captain LeBubbles » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:09 am

Valerie wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:
Valerie wrote:Also, as a QUILTBAG forum, I want a thread dedicated to knowledge about every letter! D: Just to help some of the slightly less enlightened of us catch up. Like me, with my inability to know wtf is up with intersexualitydomness.


I'd be up for an 'A' thread. Statistically I know I'm not the only one, but it's hard not to feel that way when I can't find any of the others.

And I too would like to know more about intersexyness(?).


*snickers* "Intersexyness."

The closest label I've found for myself might be demisexual. That's an asexuality wiki, by the way.
It's either that or I'm bisexual with a pretty low sex drive.
Except I don't really have that low of a sex drive because I really like sexytimes with my husband.
SO I DON'T KNOW. If I like you, I like you, end of story. D:


Wow. I. Wow.

I've known I was asexual for almost five years now (since I learned it was an option) and this is the first time I've actually felt like I was normal for it.

The article on asexuality might as well have been taken from my own brain.

Wow.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Artemisia » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:16 am

Kamino Neko wrote:Thanks. Looks like the situation is about how I understood it, I was just not quite informed about how quickly the change was happening.


Yep. There's a lot of pressure to make sure that everyone fits into the simple categories.

And thank you for doing the clarification in the end.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Valerie » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:18 am

Captain LeBubbles wrote:Wow. I. Wow.

I've known I was asexual for almost five years now (since I learned it was an option) and this is the first time I've actually felt like I was normal for it.

The article on asexuality might as well have been taken from my own brain.

Wow.


That is exactly how I felt when I stumbled on the demisexuality article (it was at least a year ago).
We're not abnormal. We're just different. And other people are different, too.
I think the world might be a nicer place if everyone realized that, but that's just preachin' to the choir in this environment.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Captain LeBubbles » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:21 am

Valerie wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:Wow. I. Wow.

I've known I was asexual for almost five years now (since I learned it was an option) and this is the first time I've actually felt like I was normal for it.

The article on asexuality might as well have been taken from my own brain.

Wow.


That is exactly how I felt when I stumbled on the demisexuality article (it was at least a year ago).
We're not abnormal. We're just different. And other people are different, too.
I think the world might be a nicer place if everyone realized that, but that's just preachin' to the choir in this environment.


It's one thing to know, intellectually, that there are others, that it's a perfectly ordinary situation that is simply less common than others, but I've never been able to get my Spock-brain and my McCoy-brain to mesh on, well, anything (true to form) and it's hard to believe that when the evidence is failing to present itself.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Valerie » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:28 am

Captain LeBubbles wrote:It's one thing to know, intellectually, that there are others, that it's a perfectly ordinary situation that is simply less common than others, but I've never been able to get my Spock-brain and my McCoy-brain to mesh on, well, anything (true to form) and it's hard to believe that when the evidence is failing to present itself.


Well, here's the Wikipedia article and a forum dedicated to asexuality. I understand what you mean, it can be hard to really, really know that there are others, but it's validating once you've got something concrete to base it on. (Er, well, maybe "concrete" is the wrong word when talking about anything that exists solely online.)
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby brasca » Mon Feb 20, 2012 1:54 am

I know the subject of intersex gender assignment post natal can be a very volatile subject, but I can't imagine anyone would have an easy time growing up because of their differences which people can be exceptionally cruel about it.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Mung » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:14 am

Kamino Neko wrote:
Artemisia wrote:These days, doctors will "correct" any ambiguous genitalia on babies


'These days'?

Not being intersex myself, my interest is merely academic, but I was under the impression that, while it was pretty much SOP back in the old days (like, up to the 70s, maybe the 80s), that nowadays, while it still happens, automatically 'fixing' intersex kids happens a lot less in the past couple decades. Do you have a cite for it still happening routinely, or even more than it used to (which is how your comment reads to me)?


It's kind of a cross between what's medically possible and what the parents want. The parents will generally be leaned on to make a call so "the child can socialize properly".
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Mr. Brightside » Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:23 am

I got the feeling the phrase "these days" was relative not to fifty or a hundred years ago, but to the times when doctors didn't have the capacity to safely "correct" ambiguous genitalia.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Snoww Brigade » Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:51 am

QUEBEC REPRESENT!!!

I hope we get to know Chrissy a little more, she's seems like a really interesting character.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Lia S » Mon Feb 20, 2012 8:03 am

Captain LeBubbles wrote:As a side-note, something I've been meaning to ask: are we absolutely certain that Chrissie is pre-op trans? I mean, has it actually been confirmed at some point? The evidence mostly seems to point to that, but at the same time there's this niggly voice in my brain going "you know, it's also possible that she's a hermaphrodite who is Questioning her gender identity..." and then a long jumble of evidence and speculation that I don't feel like typing out.


It could be either. But if Lisa meant "big penis" the way I'm reading it, then trans is more likely than inter. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Doc Harleen » Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:30 am

Valerie wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:Wow. I. Wow.

I've known I was asexual for almost five years now (since I learned it was an option) and this is the first time I've actually felt like I was normal for it.

The article on asexuality might as well have been taken from my own brain.

Wow.


That is exactly how I felt when I stumbled on the demisexuality article (it was at least a year ago).
We're not abnormal. We're just different. And other people are different, too.
I think the world might be a nicer place if everyone realized that, but that's just preachin' to the choir in this environment.


This is probably one of the more readily accepting environments, but yeah. I've always figured that asexuality is just another type of sexuality, as normal as any other one (if you want to use a word like "normal" - I kinda don't care for it). I'm sure that with what seems like less educational information out there on it, it may be even harder to recognize in one's self. "Demisexual" does seem like a valuable term. What might seem like grey areas to some are valid and require expression. Thank you for introducing me to that term.

In general, I'm a big fan of Lisa's "screw labels" mentality. While I haven't had any struggles with a sexual identity (I could potentially be described as hetero, having only ever been with my husband, but I know that I am physically attracted to women as well), I have had struggles with a religious identity, and "coming out" as an atheist twelve years ago caused a rift between me and my mother that has only really started to heal over the last six months. I don't judge people for what they believe or what they're attracted to. I'll only judge someone for being a jerk.

We're all just people. The rest just seems like fine print. :wink:

Also, SQUEE, cute Lisa! :D But man, I wonder where exactly this flashback is going...
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Snoww Brigade » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:06 am

Valerie wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:
Valerie wrote:Also, as a QUILTBAG forum, I want a thread dedicated to knowledge about every letter! D: Just to help some of the slightly less enlightened of us catch up. Like me, with my inability to know wtf is up with intersexualitydomness.


I'd be up for an 'A' thread. Statistically I know I'm not the only one, but it's hard not to feel that way when I can't find any of the others.

And I too would like to know more about intersexyness(?).


*snickers* "Intersexyness."

The closest label I've found for myself might be demisexual. That's an asexuality wiki, by the way.
It's either that or I'm bisexual with a pretty low sex drive.
Except I don't really have that low of a sex drive because I really like sexytimes with my husband.
SO I DON'T KNOW. If I like you, I like you, end of story. D:


Thanks for the link, it's always reassuring to know that how you feel inside is something that exists outside of yourself... if you know what I mean o.O :)
So if I'm not mistaken, three Aces posted in this very thread (Val, Bubbles and me). Considering I've never met someone like me, either on the internet or IRL, I think we just beat the odds.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby Garlic » Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:39 am

Despite her friendship with Sara, Lisa doesn't seem to know what a lesbian is. It sure isn't about hating the 'touch of man-flesh'.
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Re: [2-20-12] Mind walking me back to my room?

Postby NobodySpecial » Mon Feb 20, 2012 11:06 am

Garlic wrote:Despite her friendship with Sara, Lisa doesn't seem to know what a lesbian is. It sure isn't about hating the 'touch of man-flesh'.


Well, no, but there are plenty of lesbians who will tell you flatly that men are disgusting and that sexytimes with one is slightly less pleasurable than, say, having your skin peeled off with salt encrusted dull razor blades.

All that said, I think I'm going to steal Doc's line on this, it's quick, it's genius, and I'm lazy.

We're all just people. The rest just seems like fine print. :wink:
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