Valerie wrote:Sort of along that vein, can you tell us specifically what kinds of sexualities the comic will deal with? Will we see any asexuals? Will it pass into "squick" territory?
bunnyThor wrote:Let me re-phrase what I believe Alice and Tamar are getting at above.
If you were making a comic about war, you could successfully make one where all the blood and wounds and dead people are obscured by convenient props and strange camera angles and artfully placed speech bubbles. This could be understandable if you were particularly concerned about the delicate sensibilities of your hypothetical audience. However it would detract from the seriousness of your intentions and message and undermine any sense of verisimilitude.
If you were making a comic about sexuality, you could successfully make one where all the breasts and genitals and sexual acts are obscured by convenient props and strange camera angles and artfully placed speech bubbles. This could be understandable if you were particularly concerned about the delicate sensibilities of your hypothetical audience. However it would detract from the seriousness of your intentions and message and undermine any sense of verisimilitude.
Or to make it terse: How much authenticity are you willing to sacrifice for the sake of some of your potential audience's boundaries?
Alice Macher wrote:TCampbell wrote:I hesitate even now to show bare breasts and genitalia, because just last weekend a close friend of mine told me that "showing bare breasts" in sexual contexts was one thing that led him to define Menage a 3 as "porn." I don't want to touch off a big is-it-or-isn't-it debate, but I personally have never been comfortable with that label. (In MA3's case, I prefer the term "sex comedy.") I'm all for some fanservice (Brandi's Christmas card, anyone?), but I don't want Quiltbag to be seen as nothing but sexploitation.
Understood, but Tamar did mention the final arc of Cool Cat Studio, which you did write, and that featured not only the bare breasts of four characters, but also a hint of Liz's pubic hair. And that last was with Belinda shown going down on her. So my question is, was that level of explicitness (which is without doubt far more than what any of your other works, even the BDSM scenes in Fans, have ever shown) partially Gis's idea? Totally her idea? If the latter, was it a subject of much disagreement between you two, the way that the post-"Popsicle War" direction of P&A was for you at around the same time?
(Edited: Tamar wants me to add, just to make it clear, that whether there's nudity in Quiltbag or not will have no bearing whatsoever on her enjoyment of the comic. Nor will it on mine. Just so you don't get the idea that we're specifically demanding it. We wouldn't do that, no joke. Fanservice is awesome but stories with actual plot and characterization are one thing, and porn is another. Despite what Alan Moore says. And we don't read your and Jason's works for porn. Nor Gis's; we agree with you there too.)
Fen wrote:The bare breasts might have been an issue? After the first strip depicting two men doing it?
*doesn't get boundaries*
Aaanyway. Thank you for the melody/nick story .
Interesting that PayPal is a payment option for the Adam & Eve website…Alice Macher wrote:Also, last I heard anyway, PayPal has a "no nudity on your site" condition for using their service as a customer payment method. And while that doesn't limit one's options as much as the Google Ads policy does, it's still a consideration.
Alice Macher wrote:^That's it, folks, griffon8 has won the thread.
TCampbell wrote:Valerie wrote:Sort of along that vein, can you tell us specifically what kinds of sexualities the comic will deal with? Will we see any asexuals? Will it pass into "squick" territory?
It's, um, hard to answer the "squick" question, given people's varying thresholds. Some people seemed freaked out by Aggie climbing on top of Penny and saying "Hmmm, can't get away, can you, little bitch?" And, I mean, yeah, out of context, that does sounds a little rapey. But it's done, I hope, with the understanding that Aggie's basically extending their playful verbal fencing matches to the bedroom, and giving Penny a pretty big window to opt out. Readers seemed less bothered by their final sex scene, which I personally thought was much worse.
Some things, like scat play, are complete squicks for me (context or no), and I don't really trust my ability to depict them in a sexy way, so if we engage those things at all it'll probably be at a distance (it sounds like something Lisa might use to shock people). But tastes vary. Twenty years ago I was pro-gay rights but still kinda weirded out when I saw guys kissing. Today I'm weirded out when I see gay guys in fiction and the depiction is clearly avoiding showing them kissing.
Louisa wrote:Valerie wrote:at the end of the day, I'll just tell you that I like who I like and that's all that really matters to me.
I applaud your definition and would gladly become one of your wives.
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