8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby Spitewitch » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:05 am

I've just figured out what it is about Agenny that has bothered me from the very first, even despite my cheerleading for them.

All they do is fight.

I've been bugged by their constant name-calling, even though it's clearly affectionate. I was most pleased by those moments of hesitant touching and kissing that were sprinkled throughout the build-up to all this. And while the sex is apparently hot, it's just that... I'm with Aggie. There's no tenderness between these two. And that, in any intimate relationship, is a serious problem.

For the first time, I'm no longer sure whether I'm rooting for them to stay together.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby mindstalk » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:06 am

Huh, I may have misattributed the "Why are you here?" question. I just read Wikipedia on L-----.

"Do you have anyything worth living for?" Not actually the most relevant questino right here. "Where are you going" would have been funny there. "Splat but for you."
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby taotu » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:14 am

...I laughed a lot at the various ways Penny's crotch was covered up, I have to say.

Also, today's comic makes me less upset at Wednesday's.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby CEOIII » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:28 am

Just gonna put this out there.

If you get your child a toy that they've always wanted, and let them play with it for a few months, and then take it from them for no damn reason and refuse to give it back, you're a horrible parent.

Just putting that out there.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby griffon8 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:51 am

milk experiment wrote:
griffon8 wrote:Given Penny's last statement, coupled with the fact that there are only three more pages, I'm convinced that the two of them are going to be the only ones onscreen for the rest of 'August'.

Wait... three more pages in August or in the whole comic? Given where it is now, I can't imagine the whole comic wrapping that quickly.

Today's page is has 'Associated Text' that reads: [Comic: August, 23 of 26]. 'August' is the current chapter. There will be three more pages in this chapter. IIRC, after that there will be a twelve page 'Coda'. Then that will be it. Finito. Done. Ended. 'Game over, man.' :cry:

T has stated that a sequel comic is in serious consideration.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby jk9000 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:53 am

CEOIII wrote:Just gonna put this out there.

If you get your child a toy that they've always wanted, and let them play with it for a few months, and then take it from them for no damn reason and refuse to give it back, you're a horrible parent.

Just putting that out there.


Shot in the dark: Is T the terrible parent in this metaphor? If so, I don't really think it's fair.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby griffon8 » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:55 am

jk9000 wrote:
CEOIII wrote:Just gonna put this out there.

If you get your child a toy that they've always wanted, and let them play with it for a few months, and then take it from them for no damn reason and refuse to give it back, you're a horrible parent.

Just putting that out there.

Shot in the dark: Is T the terrible parent in this metaphor? If so, I don't really think it's fair.

Yeah, I don't understand the exact nature of his complaint.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby unavoidablytiger » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:25 am

This is more related to the last few strips than this one, but...

I went back and starting rereading from the beginning of the Aggie/Penny relationship, and just a few strips in, I hit this one - http://www.pennyandaggie.com/index.php?p=1156.

So now I'm wondering... why has Penny done such a 180 on her no life plans for love policy?
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby CEOIII » Fri Aug 19, 2011 1:39 am

jk9000 wrote:
CEOIII wrote:Just gonna put this out there.

If you get your child a toy that they've always wanted, and let them play with it for a few months, and then take it from them for no damn reason and refuse to give it back, you're a horrible parent.

Just putting that out there.


Shot in the dark: Is T the terrible parent in this metaphor? If so, I don't really think it's fair.


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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby Kitsuiko » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:41 am

Don't get me wrong - I think a lot of you are being foolish. Love doesn't have to be gentle touchy-feely Presbyterian sex in order to be healthy. You can have a sex life based on rough sex which doesn't in fact mean that the couple secretly hates each other or they're unhealthy or anything is wrong. You don't need to have cuddle moments that would work on a commercial. People are happy as cuddly, people are happy with rough sex, people are happy as mistress or master and slave. Love comes in all different flavors and ways.

Who's a fan of the movie, Secretary? This girl, right here.

That said while I don't believe that rough sex enjoyment is a sign that the relationship is only based on sex I do see a problem here. However the problem is that Penny loves Aggie for her passion. She likes Stan when he was all worked up about stuff, she liked Rich when he was all grr and dynamic. That seems to be her attraction point. Now, Aggie is dynamic, don't get me wrong, but I don't think she's the sung me moon struck kissed me quite insane type that Penny seems to be looking for in the end. She's the sort to want the slap/slap/kiss - the same thing that you other fans who were looking forward to that ship to sail wanted.

The problem is really Aggie realizing that's not what SHE wants. Simple as that. Nothing more or less.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby xoxi » Fri Aug 19, 2011 2:55 am

I feel bad for Aggie here. Her girlfriend is kind of psycho. And I have always kind of hated Aggie and liked Penny. But wow.

My favorite part about this strip? Aggie's hideously ugly shirt is ripped. Unless she has a closet full of spares that thing is gone daddy gone.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby Valerie » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:13 am

THANK. GOD. Get the hell away from this thing, Aggie. D:

That said...

Syrth wrote:To be honest, i've always been a Aggie x Marshall fan and think they should be together.

Lets see what happens!


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I notice a lot of people are complaining about the lack of tenderness in this relationship. That is not the problem. As has been mentioned by Kitsuiko already, not all relationships have to be lovey-dovey-cutesy-bootsy. The problem here is that Penny is openly stating that she wants to have arguments with Aggie just to manipulate her into rough sex. That's dishonest. Of all the things that happy, successful relationships can do without, honesty is not on the list.

There is a major, major difference between "I like rough sex, let's play hard," and "I like rough sex and I am going to fuck with your emotions in order to get it."

Not to mention, if I were Aggie, I would be pissed at Penny's last comment there. "This is who we are." No, it's who you are. Aggie still has a right to decide who she is.
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby Pink Freud » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:42 am

Ok, I think by this point I have completely checked out.

I mean I don't want to bring up motorcycle stunts and aquatic predators here, but at the least an Italian is certainly involved...
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby Lia S » Fri Aug 19, 2011 4:13 am

brasca wrote:... but given Aggie's vantage point and Penny's lack of concealment Aggie could always accuse her of being like Hitler on account of her grooming. :lol:


Are you saying Penny has a narrow mustache there?
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Re: 8/19/11 Don't know if I want this

Postby snowmansam » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:07 am

Oh my poor, poor ship. Such stormy seas it's sailing through. If there were hatches I would batten them. If there were bilge pumps I would man them.

T, don't sink my ship; I can't swim. :shock:
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