Re-read week 107: Suicide Run 2 - 7

[Topic Starter Robot]

Suicide Run 2 3 4 5 6 7

[LadyObvious23]

What the hell did she see in him? He's got the personality of wet clay!

And yeah people can dread ya Aggie. Yer kinda judgemental and stereotyping.

[timemonkey]

Her crush was entirely superficial, everything else after that was dealing with no brain function Aggie. Aggie's crush never bothered me, what bothered me was how EVERYONE else loved him too.

[LadyObvious23]

Especially since he's got such a sheeple personality. Oh god. DX

[Bo Lindbergh]

Looks good, pets dog ➞ BOOM, instant illogical obsession.

[brasca]

Especially since he's got such a sheeple personality. Oh god. DX

Sheeple? Marshall has been called a lot of things and most of it wrong. Marshall does a lot of things teenagers do not. Despite his attractiveness he never exploits it to get a different girl every day the way a lot of boys his age would. If it weren't for his good looks he'd be considered a square, but most girls probably think if they show him a good time they could cure him of this. Karen is the only one who was lucky enough to get him and because he doesn't understand people too well he doesn't realize how bad Karen really is. He's actually being a good boyfriend by protecting the woman he loves against accusations which lack evidence. So how is he a sheeple again?

Aggie's initial approach was correct, but she should have inquired about Charlotte and then give Karen the benefit of the doubt even if she didn't believe it. That way she'd still have credibility with Marshall and he might begin to question Karen's actions, but she veers off and it ends badly.

[LadyObvious23]

Especially since he's got such a sheeple personality. Oh god. DX

Sheeple? Marshall has been called a lot of things and most of it wrong. Marshall does a lot of things teenagers do not. Despite his attractiveness he never exploits it to get a different girl every day the way a lot of boys his age would. If it weren't for his good looks he'd be considered a square, but most girls probably think if they show him a good time they could cure him of this. Karen is the only one who was lucky enough to get him and because he doesn't understand people too well he doesn't realize how bad Karen really is. He's actually being a good boyfriend by protecting the woman he loves against accusations which lack evidence. So how is he a sheeple again?

He literally goes with what he hears,defends a chick who's abused him in the past and literally doesn't learn a damn thing. He's a sheeple.

[timemonkey]

That's not what sheeple means.

[Twitcher]

2. I think Aggie really believes, on one level, at least, that she can get through to him through sheer intellectual passion, and jog off into the sunset with him through reason alone.
3. Another reason people don't sympathize with Marshall. This level of innocence isn't moral purity, it's willful ignorance. You see shit? Call people out on it.
4. Because people as insecure as Karen are afraid of everyone.
5. Does Karen have a learning disability?
6. Marshall Quixote, tilting at windmills...
7. NOT A GOOD TIME, AGGIE.

[LadyObvious23]

That's not what sheeple means.

:/ Yeah it is. Dude literally doesn't seem to think or learn anything outside the crap he's been fed. He's a sheeple.

[thebitterfig]

Words, as 6SL Duane would likely tell us, can mean different things to different people. However the most common usage of the word sheeple isn't really to denote incurious devotion to an individual, but rather herdlike acceptance of mass media and political culture.* While he's certainly mislead about some things, I'm hesitant to describe Marshall as one of the herd. He's always seemed mostly a loner, he's had an antagonistic relationship with youth sexuality, and so forth. He seems like less of a sheep than a puppy, perhaps kicked a few times before and now completely loyal to one of the first people to treat him better than he was used to.

*The common usage for Sheeple: A blogger or talk radio host ranting, "Wake up, Sheeple, you're being misled by politician/corporation/etc!!!."

[timemonkey]

DAPHNE would be a closer example to a 'sheeple' than Marshal. Still not quite right but closer. Marshal is more stubborn and willfully oblivious.

[FlyingFish]

Oh, Aggie. You are getting a colossal amount of new insight into WHY Karen is behaving as she does, and you do NOTHING with this information. You do not adapt, you do not back off to reconsider, and you do not see that Marshall won't be able to see past "my girlfriend is a wounded bird and needs protection." You just keep blundering forward with the original plan.

Marshall doesn't (isn't willing to) see how Karen's insecurities could take her down a dark road. But Aggie doesn't (isn't willing to) see how Karen's dark road really did start from her insecurities.

[brasca]

Love can make you blind and that is how most of us want it. Relationships strain and break if one or both of the people involved constantly have second thoughts and suspicions. Marshall loves Karen so he trusts her without question. It would be a beautiful thing and what most of us want out of our lovers. It's just a pity that he's placed that trust in Karen.