I've Failed Her (6/1/12)

[brasca]

And we're back to the story that interests me most and doesn't require a vast knowledge of pop culture to understand Marie's poetry.

[Adrishiana]

So it looks like the affair's been going on for something like a year and a half to two years now, assuming (and you know what they say about assuming!) Iseul means the whole video thing.

[Artemisia]

No, Iseul, you didn't fail her. You only fail her if she can't cope. You only fail her if you don't support her.

[Valerie]

Thank GOD.

As I've already pointed out in the chat...

"It's not good to stuff things inside you." BEGGING FOR EXPLOITATION.
"I know you like to control things, but..." STILL BEGGING FOR EXPLOITATION.
"...they have a way of crawling out." Oh ew gross this took a turn for the weird.

We have dabs of color in this one. Iseul's hand where Liz touches her, and Iseul's eyes are red from crying. So I guess color is happening when there's some emotion coming out.

[Alice Macher]

Okay, T, question about the continuity here. Is this conversation taking place early in Sara's junior year, when the rape slander first surfaced, or is it taking place late that year, after the FBI investigation into the Charlotte and Cyndi case? Because if it's the former, wasn't it established that parents didn't know about the video? And if it's the latter, I'm wondering why Iseul is saying "Everyone at her school thinks [Sara's] some monstrous horror," given that Sara, while never completely free of the stigma, nevertheless by...not long after "The Popsicle War" seemed to have regained her social standing and not having everyone think she was a rapist.

[LadyObvious23]

I've gone from not liking her to wanting to hug her and tell her everything'll be fine. Poor Iseul...

[Artemisia]

Thank GOD.

As I've already pointed out in the chat...

"It's not good to stuff things inside you." BEGGING FOR EXPLOITATION.
"I know you like to control things, but..." STILL BEGGING FOR EXPLOITATION.
"...they have a way of crawling out." Oh ew gross this took a turn for the weird.

We have dabs of color in this one. Iseul's hand where Liz touches her, and Iseul's eyes are red from crying. So I guess color is happening when there's some emotion coming out.

Well, when you are in denial of who you are, and deep in the dysphoria and depression of having to say "I am not X" all the time. . .you end up feeling like the world is grey all the time, and the only time it has colour is when you feel something.

[brasca]

It's also good to know the parents weren't completely in the dark about this. I suppose their reactions varied on account of circumstances. Considering who Iseul she probably preferred pretending it didn't happen and was relieved when attention over the video dropped to not push the issue any further.

[Captain LeBubbles]

I'm just gonna go lol at 'It's not good to stuff things inside you' for a bit.

[mindstalk]

"It's not good to stuff things inside you." BEGGING FOR EXPLOITATION.

Penis bad!

"I know you like to control things, but..." STILL BEGGING FOR EXPLOITATION.

Like your kids.

"...they have a way of crawling out."

Like your kids!

[TCampbell]

Okay, T, question about the continuity here. Is this conversation taking place early in Sara's junior year, when the rape slander first surfaced, or is it taking place late that year, after the FBI investigation into the Charlotte and Cyndi case? Because if it's the former, wasn't it established that parents didn't know about the video? And if it's the latter, I'm wondering why Iseul is saying "Everyone at her school thinks [Sara's] some monstrous horror," given that Sara, while never completely free of the stigma, nevertheless by...not long after "The Popsicle War" seemed to have regained her social standing and not having everyone think she was a rapist.

It's when the rape slander first surfaced (though the text itself wouldn't necessarily make that obvious yet), and I'm aware of the apparent discrepancy here. Wasn't she startled when Sara came out to her, much later than that? All will be revealed in due time.

[jk9000]

I'm just gonna go lol at 'It's not good to stuff things inside you' for a bit.

Let me join you. I don't know if that line was on purpose, or what.

Well, that aside, Elizabeth is a pretty smooth operator. It's just kind disconcerting that she moves into "let me brake out the wine and open up to you emotionally" immediately after hanging up on her girlfriend.

[Artemisia]

"It's not good to stuff things inside you." BEGGING FOR EXPLOITATION.

Penis bad!

Hey- that's my line :p

[Valerie]

"It's not good to stuff things inside you." BEGGING FOR EXPLOITATION.

Penis bad!

Hey- that's my line :p

X3

[LookingIn]

Okay, T, question about the continuity here. Is this conversation taking place early in Sara's junior year, when the rape slander first surfaced, or is it taking place late that year, after the FBI investigation into the Charlotte and Cyndi case? Because if it's the former, wasn't it established that parents didn't know about the video? And if it's the latter, I'm wondering why Iseul is saying "Everyone at her school thinks [Sara's] some monstrous horror," given that Sara, while never completely free of the stigma, nevertheless by...not long after "The Popsicle War" seemed to have regained her social standing and not having everyone think she was a rapist.

It's when the rape slander first surfaced (though the text itself wouldn't necessarily make that obvious yet), and I'm aware of the apparent discrepancy here. Wasn't she startled when Sara came out to her, much later than that? All will be revealed in due time.

So just to be crystal clear, at that time her mother was still under the assumption then that her daughter was heterosexual and the whole event was ruinous to her reputation due to the assumption of her being a lesbian and not that she was a rapist?