[28 May 12] What's best for her daughter

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Re: [28 May 12] What's best for her daughter

Postby Zanosuke Kurosaki » Mon May 28, 2012 11:01 pm

Captain LeBubbles wrote:Sara wasn't being all that disrespectful


That completely depends on your point of view. Eastern views of respect are very, very different from Western ones. When I was younger, I had a Fillipino babysitter. I never quite meant to be, but I was occasionally what she viewed as "disrespectful." Fortunately, she had also had a long-term exposure to how American children are (seeing as she and her husband had adopted a couple of them), so she was able to be patient and help me understand why she considered it disrespectful, instead of instantly going right to "you are showing disrespect and I will not have it!" I would venture to say that Iseul, despite having had Sara around this long, still just can't wrap her head around "my child has not grown up with the same restrictions I have, and does not understand the freedom she has to even talk to me this way. Perhaps I should help her understand why I feel disrespected." It's a shame that Iseul is, as you've noted, trapped by her ways of thinking.

Think of her as (from our points of view) a brainwashing victim. She was raised to see things very plainly, in very stark ("black and white", even?) terms. It takes a large amount of inner strength to ever come around to admitting, even just to oneself, that the old way might have ever been flawed in the minutest of ways. If she were to really come out and admit all of this to herself - what effect might that end up having on her life? To say nothing of the lives of Sara and Theo. She could be denying herself because she doesn't want to hurt them.
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Re: [28 May 12] What's best for her daughter

Postby oddtail » Tue May 29, 2012 1:24 am

A bit late with my comment, but:

Iseul "shouts" in a whisper (which in itself is pretty entertaining, I mean, come on). After the fact that made her angry. Addressing her anger at the person that made her angry, BUT not actually talking to the person.

...come to think of it, this is the best "in a nutshell" summary of what we know about Iseul's coping skills that I could imagine. The strip is quietly brilliant.
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Re: [28 May 12] What's best for her daughter

Postby Hexr » Tue May 29, 2012 6:08 am

sgtrock wrote:
Heh. If the tirade is in whispered Korean (which I suspect is the point because people tend to revert to their first language for truly satisying cussing), Elizabeth would only get the tone. That may be enough to get her intrigued.

Heh, I knew that if I just go through the thread carefully enough, I will find something that's removed from the actual topic enough for me to discuss.
So anyway... around this backwater country, people tend to swear and cuss in English. I blame TV, since Finnish is a wonderful language for swearing, lots of harsh consonants and so on. The Swedish-speaking Finns know this, they swear in Finnish, in spite of being native Swedish-speakers.
(then again, Swedish doesn't really have swearwords.)
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Postby Bo Lindbergh » Tue May 29, 2012 7:05 am

Hexr wrote:(then again, Swedish doesn't really have swearwords.)

I am reminded of seventh grade, when our teacher tried to convince us that no, really, German doesn't have any stronger swearwords than "Donnerwetter!"
(We didn't believe her for a second.)
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Postby LookingIn » Tue May 29, 2012 12:18 pm

Bo Lindbergh wrote:
Hexr wrote:(then again, Swedish doesn't really have swearwords.)

I am reminded of seventh grade, when our teacher tried to convince us that no, really, German doesn't have any stronger swearwords than "Donnerwetter!"
(We didn't believe her for a second.)


That teacher, what a dumkopf...

Taught to us by a german speaking bosnian refugee who shared the insults with our spanish and creole speaking teammates to bring the overall insult slinging to five languages for all of us :mrgreen:
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Re: [28 May 12] What's best for her daughter

Postby Artemisia » Tue May 29, 2012 12:24 pm

Major General Scheiskopf reporting for duty!

I wonder if anyone will get the reference.
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Re: [28 May 12] What's best for her daughter

Postby Alice Macher » Tue May 29, 2012 12:26 pm

Catch-22, right?
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Re: [28 May 12] What's best for her daughter

Postby Artemisia » Tue May 29, 2012 12:52 pm

Yep :D
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Re: [28 May 12] What's best for her daughter

Postby phagocyte » Tue May 29, 2012 7:52 pm

Lia S wrote:
TCampbell wrote:(I mean, yes, there are other and more questionable things Iseul is doing here, but she was doing those before this, so I don't get why this should be the tipping point. Elizabeth isn't intrigued by her anger, Elizabeth is intrigued by what seems to motivate that anger.)


Hating kids?

Hating people who have sex when they share a bed?

I know, "forty times smarter and more experienced in life", but you were almost asking for it.


I think I get it.

The lady who seems uncomfortable with gayness and WHISPERS her (justifiable) anger screams of repression.

And you just want to see what they're like when they let it all out
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