5-11-12 Make it fit.

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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby retrophrenologist » Thu May 10, 2012 9:36 pm

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Captain LeBubbles wrote:The question is, did she empty them all in the last month? Or does she just like to collect pretty glass bottles and they're symbolic of something else? (My mom likes glass bottles and I have a few of my own, so I don't always jump on the 'must be an alcoholic' train. Especially since they're so neatly arranged, and not strewn about, hidden, or thrown away.)


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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby LookingIn » Thu May 10, 2012 9:37 pm

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Captain LeBubbles wrote:I wanna see the visual poems. Squiggles aren't helpful in figuring out what's going on here.


It looks kind of like a QR code.


Mindstalk...are you stalking my mind?!?! :shock:

I thought the same thing... :lol:
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby Captain LeBubbles » Thu May 10, 2012 9:38 pm

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Captain LeBubbles wrote:The question is, did she empty them all in the last month? Or does she just like to collect pretty glass bottles and they're symbolic of something else? (My mom likes glass bottles and I have a few of my own, so I don't always jump on the 'must be an alcoholic' train. Especially since they're so neatly arranged, and not strewn about, hidden, or thrown away.)


There are only a few characters that could put away that much booze in a month (Aubrey Chorde, Hazel Tellington, etc.) and their tolerance for liquor is played for laughs. I think it's just decorations and since Michael doesn't drink and has no frame of reference he's jumping to the conclusion that she's an alcoholic.


But they're obviously being focused on for a reason, so they do symbolize something. Given how much trouble it is to draw each and every one of them, they're not just there for nothing.
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby LookingIn » Thu May 10, 2012 9:40 pm

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brasca wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:The question is, did she empty them all in the last month? Or does she just like to collect pretty glass bottles and they're symbolic of something else? (My mom likes glass bottles and I have a few of my own, so I don't always jump on the 'must be an alcoholic' train. Especially since they're so neatly arranged, and not strewn about, hidden, or thrown away.)


There are only a few characters that could put away that much booze in a month (Aubrey Chorde, Hazel Tellington, etc.) and their tolerance for liquor is played for laughs. I think it's just decorations and since Michael doesn't drink and has no frame of reference he's jumping to the conclusion that she's an alcoholic.


But they're obviously being focused on for a reason, so they do symbolize something. Given how much trouble it is to draw each and every one of them, they're not just there for nothing.


The position of his eyes and the shocked expression leave it open that he is staring at the bottles as well...
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby Cheshire » Thu May 10, 2012 9:41 pm

Not to mention, a few of them are beer bottles, and it's easy for most people can drink a couple beers a night. And for a person with that kind of issue, it's easy to finish a bottle of wine in a night, too.

EDIT: Although in a comic perspective, it's not a huge stretch to imagine straight-edge Michael seeing someone's wine bottle collection and instantly jumping to the alcoholic conclusion, especially with other stereotypical factors like being isolated and quiet.
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby LadyObvious23 » Thu May 10, 2012 9:48 pm

That's a lot of bottles for one little lady. O.o I really hope that's just her roommates cuz I don't picture her being a drinker.
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby mindstalk » Thu May 10, 2012 9:52 pm

Remember we skipped forward to a month into the term. 30 days. 30-60 beer bottles, easy. 15-30 wine bottles. (Or ginger beer and sparkling cider ones, for misdirection.)
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby Captain LeBubbles » Thu May 10, 2012 9:56 pm

mindstalk wrote:Remember we skipped forward to a month into the term. 30 days. 30-60 beer bottles, easy. 15-30 wine bottles. (Or ginger beer and sparkling cider ones, for misdirection.)


It's not really the numbers (though I'm sure there are more out of shot), it's how neatly they're arranged. It's obvious she doesn't just throw them away. Even if she is emptying them herself, there's still more to it than just her being a heavy drinker.
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby Zanosuke Kurosaki » Thu May 10, 2012 9:59 pm

Cheshire wrote::(

I know the us-characters aren't actually us, but I was also a depressed poet with a drinking problem when I was a freshman in college, so this is hitting pretty close to home.


I've always had an interest in spatial relations (there's a reason I quite dig the Virtual Adepts and their work with the Sphere of Correspondence in Mage the Ascension, for example), so I'm kind of surprised T took it this direction myself. That's two of us he's hitting pretty spot on, here. :shock: (especially that back when I was first in college, I was a tad straight-edged, yes. :oops: )

Also: *hug* I hope it's gotten better for you now, Ches. :(


I like the line about "your story is losing credibility". There's Hank, being his snarky yet helpful self. :roll:
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby Artemisia » Thu May 10, 2012 10:04 pm

Some how...make it fit just makes me worried.
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby DaraX » Thu May 10, 2012 10:07 pm

I'm getting an obsessive-compulsive vibe from Marie. "Make it fit" The Tetris, which is basically about putting things where they need to be. And the bottles in the foreground are in a specific repeating pattern, and if you check the colours of the ones up on the shelf, they follow the same pattern. Taller brown bottle, tall thin green wine bottle, 2 short brown beer bottles, shorter greenish wine bottle, green bottle of the same height with more of a curve + shorter neck, repeat.
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby Tamar » Thu May 10, 2012 10:10 pm

DaraX wrote:I'm getting an obsessive-compulsive vibe from Marie. "Make it fit" The Tetris, which is basically about putting things where they need to be. And the bottles in the foreground are in a specific repeating pattern, and if you check the colours of the ones up on the shelf, they follow the same pattern. Taller brown bottle, tall thin green wine bottle, 2 short brown beer bottles, shorter greenish wine bottle, green bottle of the same height with more of a curve + shorter neck, repeat.


Normally, I'm not inclined to diagnose fictional characters (despite the temptation to, as a psych student), but yes, this I could see. Well spotted.
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby AngFdz » Thu May 10, 2012 10:10 pm

maybe she just likes bottles tho? She seems kinda artsty. It just seems so obvious I can't believe a single person has drank that many bottles of wine alone, or even packed them in her bag to come to school without her parents seeing them or being okay with them.

edit: ah wait some of them aren't wine bottles ...
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby Captain LeBubbles » Thu May 10, 2012 10:11 pm

That certainly explains why half of them look copy-pasted. (I thought Jason just got lazy and was hoping we wouldn't notice.)
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Re: 5-11-12 Make it fit.

Postby brasca » Thu May 10, 2012 10:11 pm

LookingIn wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:
brasca wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:The question is, did she empty them all in the last month? Or does she just like to collect pretty glass bottles and they're symbolic of something else? (My mom likes glass bottles and I have a few of my own, so I don't always jump on the 'must be an alcoholic' train. Especially since they're so neatly arranged, and not strewn about, hidden, or thrown away.)


There are only a few characters that could put away that much booze in a month (Aubrey Chorde, Hazel Tellington, etc.) and their tolerance for liquor is played for laughs. I think it's just decorations and since Michael doesn't drink and has no frame of reference he's jumping to the conclusion that she's an alcoholic.


But they're obviously being focused on for a reason, so they do symbolize something. Given how much trouble it is to draw each and every one of them, they're not just there for nothing.


The position of his eyes and the shocked expression leave it open that he is staring at the bottles as well...


Admittedly I'm probably not the best judge of the amount of bottles one could consume in a month since I only became a casual drinker after college, but to drink that much would take it's toll on her academic performance and I'm sure enough people would notice. Marie doesn't seem to be reclusive since we saw her reading in the common area just quiet. Having empty bottles wouldn't get her in trouble with Hank, just consuming the contents and I doubt she could maintain such stealth under the influence unless she's a sleepy drunk like me.
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