QUILTBAG: A Breakdown of the Acronym.

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Re: QUILTBAG: A Breakdown of the Acronym.

Postby LookingIn » Fri May 25, 2012 4:01 pm

Valerie wrote:
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Captain LeBubbles wrote:*snippy* I self-identify as agender, but I use female pronouns because at this point I'm not interested in fighting that battle, especially since it's a recent revelation and I don't know anything about the pronouns, except that I hate 'zir' and all of its variations. So if someone were writing an article about me, I would be perfectly happy for them to use female pronouns- or male pronouns, whatever- *snippety*

Wildly off topic, but does this mean I can stop feeling mightily stupid whenever I see my quote in your signature?


Actually, I'm pretty sure "sir" can be used for either/any sex, at least in some cases. It's just traditionally male, and there are plenty of ladies who wouldn't like being called "sir" in day-to-day conversation. I, myself, much prefer "ma'am," but I wouldn't blow a gasket if someone said "sir," especially if my gender identity hasn't been made clear (as I believe Bubbles' was not at the time of that quote, since she was rather new to the board).


You are more lenient than I would be...

Edit- Alice wrote a better reply than mine so mine altered. 8)
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Re: QUILTBAG: A Breakdown of the Acronym.

Postby Captain LeBubbles » Fri May 25, 2012 7:40 pm

Hexr wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:*snippy* I self-identify as agender, but I use female pronouns because at this point I'm not interested in fighting that battle, especially since it's a recent revelation and I don't know anything about the pronouns, except that I hate 'zir' and all of its variations. So if someone were writing an article about me, I would be perfectly happy for them to use female pronouns- or male pronouns, whatever- *snippety*

Wildly off topic, but does this mean I can stop feeling mightily stupid whenever I see my quote in your signature?


Well I'm pretty sure at the time I mentioned I didn't care (or... didn't notice until it was pointed out...), so you're good. This was before I identified as agender or even knew it was an option, so I didn't quite understand why I didn't care, but I didn't. Besides, I often refer to myself as a gentleman and as Val pointed out, I DO hold the rank of captain (on a space pirate ship) so sir is perfectly applicable.

(And to be honest, I prefer sir to ma'am simply for rhythm reasons; the rhythm of the word ma'am doesn't have the same appeal to me that sir does. Also, ma'am makes me feel old.)
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Re: QUILTBAG: A Breakdown of the Acronym.

Postby Alice Macher » Fri May 25, 2012 8:01 pm

Well. I learn new things from this forum all the time. I didn't know "sir" for women had military usage. Interesting.
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Re: QUILTBAG: A Breakdown of the Acronym.

Postby Valerie » Fri May 25, 2012 8:20 pm

Alice Macher wrote:Well. I learn new things from this forum all the time. I didn't know "sir" for women had military usage. Interesting.


Again, it does kind of depend on the individual woman. Some women prefer "sir" because of the respect the word entails and some women are very much ladylike and want to be addressed as "ma'am," even when in a position of authority. So don't go throwing it around. :P
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Re: QUILTBAG: A Breakdown of the Acronym.

Postby Bardlp » Sat May 26, 2012 8:00 pm

I'm with Valerie. Totally depends on the person. And now, an amusing anecdote -- Once, while being polite and getting something for someone, I said, "Sure thing, Ma'am."

I was rather angrily told not to "ma'am" her.

My response? "Yes, Sir."

That went over even worse. After she was done venting her ire, I said, "What would you like me to call you, complete stranger who I was trying to be nice to?"

Her response was "Evil Bitch. Or Jan. Either."

I have no idea if she was messing with my head or not.
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Re: QUILTBAG: A Breakdown of the Acronym.

Postby Valerie » Sun May 27, 2012 8:00 am

Maybe she wanted you to call her "miss" instead of "ma'am." One of those who would rather feel young than respected.

These words are all very tricky. DX
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Re: QUILTBAG: A Breakdown of the Acronym.

Postby Gholateg » Sun May 27, 2012 6:10 pm

Valerie wrote:
Hexr wrote:
Captain LeBubbles wrote:*snippy* I self-identify as agender, but I use female pronouns because at this point I'm not interested in fighting that battle, especially since it's a recent revelation and I don't know anything about the pronouns, except that I hate 'zir' and all of its variations. So if someone were writing an article about me, I would be perfectly happy for them to use female pronouns- or male pronouns, whatever- *snippety*

Wildly off topic, but does this mean I can stop feeling mightily stupid whenever I see my quote in your signature?


Actually, I'm pretty sure "sir" can be used for either/any sex, at least in some cases. It's just traditionally male, and there are plenty of ladies who wouldn't like being called "sir" in day-to-day conversation. I, myself, much prefer "ma'am," but I wouldn't blow a gasket if someone said "sir," especially if my gender identity hasn't been made clear (as I believe Bubbles' was not at the time of that quote, since she was rather new to the board).


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