[2-15[12] I wish.

[Ollie]

Uhm. I'm gonna guess Lisa has simply had too privileged of a life to realize exactly how bratty that response is.

"Bratty" isn't the word I'd use. I'm not even sure what word would best describe that remark. Goddamn.

[Zanosuke Kurosaki]

...OH. I think I get it now. Lisa's saying "I wish" because she wishes that one of those was her problem. Here it is, the morning after a rather shitty first day, and yet it's not quite the sort of first day that one can't get over, with a little time and some positive outcomes - and there she is, still in bed, obviously feeling a tad sorry for herself. So that "I wish" could very well be her acknowledging "yeah, I wish I had that sort of problem, maybe then this crappy feeling would be justified." I think she's subtly acknowledging that she's not got it nearly as bad off as it feels right now (of course, I could be wrong; been a long day.)

[Valerie]

Uhm. I'm gonna guess Lisa has simply had too privileged of a life to realize exactly how bratty that response is.

"Bratty" isn't the word I'd use. I'm not even sure what word would best describe that remark. Goddamn.

Well, I dunno, I think "bratty" works pretty well. Brats are spoiled and get bratty when they have any sort of moment that does not immediately benefit them. Not to mention this is the sort of response you'd expect more from a twelve-year-old (though probably about a slightly less severe topic).

In fact, if I may get personal for a second because fuck I always do anyway what am I even trying to prove this will be depressing just skip the rest people have said (sarcastically and when I bring up the fact that my mother is abusive), "Well, your mom's not beating you, is she?" "I wish she were, that'd be better."

Or my favorite, with Morgan, whose mom moreorless just totally ditched him. I was pissed at Mom for some reason or other (a good one, I assure you) and he was like, "At least you weren't abandoned." "I wish I had been abandoned!"

So yeah, I mean... You have a bad enough day for what you're used to and you say stupid, inconsiderate things. Lisa's bar for "bad enough day" is just a lot lower than mine, but we all do it, I'm sure.

Haha, it's actually really entertaining how I can say anything slightly negative about my life and the forum just freezes. You guys are bringing out my inner troll. <3

[CEOIII]

Let's go over Lisa's day.

Stan calls and essentially says, "I want to bang different people". Yes, it was FWB from the beginning, but the "accept yourself" thing makes me think Lisa did the one thing she knew she shouldn't do: She fell for Stan. So that happens.

Rejection #1.

She says "FUCK this, I'm going to a rush party and getting myself some" and drags Sara along. She's having fun, she opens up to someone about "The Mighty Quinn", her first rejection is washing away....and then she's told "Sorry, you ain't bulldyke enough for us, door's over there, kthksbi".

Rejection #2.

She wanders the streets, "The Lonely Man" playing in her head....and she runs into Chrissy Asscrack McShameWalk. Rejected twice, Lisa's just looking for someone to want her, and something in Chrissy says, "I'll go back to her place and we'll see what we'll see."

Post-coitus, a confused Chrissy wakes up, sees Lisa, and is all "WHYAMISTILLFUCKINGWOMENTHISISSOWRONGGETAWAYFROMME *hastily gets dressed and runs*".

Rejection #3.

Thus the "I wish I was getting sexually abused". What she said was offensive, yes, but what she meant was "I wish someone gave enough of a damn about me to stick around". Because after a day of being told "BEGONE!", whether it's appropriate or not, you start to wish someone cared about you enough to molest you. Even if it's the wrong kind of attention, it's still attention.

I'm hoping Hank doesn't leap up Lisa's ass for that comment, and instead says, "....OK, do you want to talk about what's really bothering you?" And I also hope Lisa owns up and says, "You know, you were looking for me in my story........did any of the other characters feel "familiar" to you at all?"

One man's opinion.

[UnstoppableTaboo]

Don't know if anyone is aware of this defunct comic, but today's strip reminded me of this:

http://www.squidi.net/comic/amd/view.php?ep=3&id=83

As did I! And perhaps it's due to my experience of reading that strip as the series was being updated that I know not to pass judgment just yet, and wait for the next few updates

[Alice Macher]

...Yeah, I'm going with what Valerie says: WTF comment on Lisa's part, but the result of not thinking before speaking (partly due to having a horrible day), rather than genuinely wishing to minimize the trauma of abuse.

Also, I'm not surprised Hank failed to see himself in her story. "Hans" is a common German name, so that wouldn't have tipped him off. And Lisa's story wasn't "really" illustrated; the images were there to show us, the readers, she was basing him on Hank. Really, the only way Hank could've identified himself would've been if Lisa had been foolish enough to include snatches of dialogue he'd remembered himself saying, and it doesn't seem she did.

What else... let's see... I think Hank has a point about Lisa not trying to stop him from reading it when she saw him. But I've no idea how he got "Winklemeyer" from "Maya." Ah well. While it's good, as others have said, T is showing us Lisa can be wrong, it makes sense for her not to be the only one in this scene capable of error.

[Arky]

I think it's an in-character comment from Lisa, and is a great set-up for Hank to do a "say WHAT?" in the next strip.

[Adrishiana]

I think it's an in-character comment from Lisa, and is a great set-up for Hank to do a "say WHAT?" in the next strip.

With the record scratchy noise?

[elm625]

I agree with the "I wish (I had more experience to write from)." At least, I think some one commented that. Not belittling the trauma, but that's been addressed. I think she meant it as she hasn't had it hard enough to shrug things off like she'd want to, and if that's ALL he took from the story, then she feels as a writer that she didn't give it enough oomph.

[Alice Macher]

Another thing: I wonder if Lisa's attitude toward Hank right now means her crush on him is over, or whether it's simply like the point in "Dinner for Six" where Aggie lashed out at Marshall, due to a misunderstanding, but abruptly went back to crushing on him?

(Allowing, of course, for the fact that Lisa's been crushing on Hank for a LOT less time than Aggie had been zonked out on Marshall by that point.)

[brasca]

It's a stupid and insensitive thing to say, but she really doesn't know anyone who have been abused. Even we longtime readers of Penny and Aggie didn't get a definitive answer about what happened to Charlotte although it's the most likely conclusion. We were privileged to see glimpses of this that other characters didn't and the only one we know that figured out she was the victim of abuse albeit from her mother was Cyndi. I don't know if Duane ever found out how bad she had it and if he did mentioned it to anyone else. As such I can overlook this, but if she did know about Charlotte's horrific childhood and could say something like that she's certainly lost a substantial amount of esteem from me.

I wonder if perhaps she Lisa some deep rooted jealousy for her old friends tragedies. When you think about it she's had the angst free life of them all. She didn't lose her mother like Aggie, didn't suffer from any homophobia like Daphne, Fred, and Sara, or have Helen's emotionally abusive parents.

[Twitcher]

I realize the comparison may not work, since Lisa actually is Jewish, but I can't help but think of Sylvia Plath reading "Daddy": "Ah, I who suffer so deeply, wish that I had all the justification with none of the psychological trauma!" Also, I'm not quite sure what message she was hoping for him to get out of it besides the one she was afraid he might take. Divorced from a creative writing standpoint, in the hands of someone who is trained to watch for depression, what did she hope for him to see?

[mindstalk]

I don't think was thinking of him as someone trained to detect anything. I'd assume she was afraid he'd "see himself" in the story.

I like the "I wish someone paid enough attention to me to be abusive" idea. Though not as much as I like what I think is the simplest explanation, of "I wish I was getting some, regularly". Yeah, it's insensitive or stupid if you take it too literally, but, y'know, don't take it literally.

[Twitcher]

It's a stupid and insensitive thing to say, but she really doesn't know anyone who have been abused. Even we longtime readers of Penny and Aggie didn't get a definitive answer about what happened to Charlotte although it's the most likely conclusion. We were privileged to see glimpses of this that other characters didn't and the only one we know that figured out she was the victim of abuse albeit from her mother was Cyndi. I don't know if Duane ever found out how bad she had it and if he did mentioned it to anyone else. As such I can overlook this, but if she did know about Charlotte's horrific childhood and could say something like that she's certainly lost a substantial amount of esteem from me.

I wonder if perhaps she Lisa some deep rooted jealousy for her old friends tragedies. When you think about it she's had the angst free life of them all. She didn't lose her mother like Aggie, didn't suffer from any homophobia like Daphne, Fred, and Sara, or have Helen's emotionally abusive parents.

I really don't think that she envies her friends suffering. *Imagines Lisa dressing up as Charlotte and dancing in the mirror: "Would you cane me? I'd cane me." It's likelier, though only slightly less absurd, that this is the worst she has felt in her entire life, and she's trying to grasp for a comparison.

[Mr. Brightside]

I was tempted to start this post "ick, Lisa, ick," but then I wondered - has anyone else dealt with someone actively trying to convince them they'd been sexually abused?

(In any case, I can't see this arc ending without Lisa buried up to her neck in pills.)

And as a linguist*, what's with the weird... things in "Maya" and "Winklemeyer"? With Winklemeyer, it almost seems random - and with Maya, is that just to suggest Lisa's cursive? (Tempted again to post my own.)

*Not actually a linguist.