Now that the girls have worked up a good sweat...

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What happens Friday 19 August?

More good violent sex, because T loves us, and by "us" I mean "me."
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Stan breaks in with the video camera and by the time he's done filming, all three of them are going to be able to put themselves through college.
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3%
The girls lay back, spent and happy, arguing over whether on looks alone Matt LeBlanc could pull off Duncan Idaho in a Dune remake.
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3%
Nick and Mrs. Levac come in to find the girls asleep naked under his desk, shrug and go back to the basement for another three hours.
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6%
Lisa and Sara -- Lisa flips a coin: "Heads I'm Aggie, tails you're Penny." Sara: "No way, heads I'm Penny and tails you're Aggie."
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A one panel of Cyndi sitting in a nondescript room in a hospital gown, smirking at us: "If T constructs his universe such that his titular heroines habitually junglefuck each other like vicious demented harpies on methamphetamines, do you REALLY think you've seen the last of me?"
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Scene change to the entire female cast of Girls With Slingshots looking at a computer screen with slack jaws, and Candy grinning and saying "told you the little hippie was a biter!"
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It took almost six years but you finally plucked the F-string, Papa. You that emotionally overwrought over the impending finale?
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Re: Now that the girls have worked up a good sweat...

Postby sgtrock » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:42 am

Valerie wrote:Yeah, I guess that's the safest way to do it, then. In Kentucky, age of consent is 16, and now that I'm in California, it's 18.
I freaked out my husband's brother by telling him I was 17. It was pretty funny. (I look it, apparently.) I have trouble wrapping my head around the disgust, though, just for the fact that 17-year-olds having sex is totally fine where I'm from.

So, like, if there's a picture online, my husband might be like, "Ew, she's like, sixteen." And my brain is like, "She's sixteen. Sixteen = sexytimes."

dfsjkfhdskj. Consent laws are complicated. Point is, saying "eighteen" across the board is probably the safest way to handle it, I was just raised in a place where eighteen is practically ancient. >_>

...I'm probably going to be put on some kind of sex offender list for this post.


Piffle. That's pretty straightforward. Compare that to current Minnesota law:

609.345 Criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree.

Subdivision 1. Crime defined. A person who engages in sexual contact with another person is guilty of criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree if any of the following circumstances exists:

(a) the complainant is under 13 years of age and the actor is no more than 36 months older than the complainant. Neither mistake as to the complainant's age or consent to the act by the complainant is a defense. In a prosecution under this clause, the state is not required to prove that the sexual contact was coerced;

(b) the complainant is at least 13 but less than 16 years of age and the actor is more than 48 months older than the complainant or in a position of authority over the complainant and uses this authority to cause the complainant to submit. Consent by the complainant to the act is not a defense. In any such case, it shall be an affirmative defense which must be proved by a preponderance of the evidence that the actor believes the complainant to be 16 years of age or older;

(c) the actor uses force or coercion to accomplish the sexual contact;

(d) the actor knows or has reason to know that the complainant is mentally impaired, mentally incapacitated, or physically helpless;

(e) the complainant is at least 16 but less than 18 years of age and the actor is more than 48 months older than the complainant and in a position of authority over the complainant, and uses this authority to cause or induce the complainant to submit. Neither mistake as to the complainant's age nor consent to the act by the complainant is a defense;

(f) the actor has a significant relationship to the complainant and the complainant was at least 16 but under 18 years of age at the time of the sexual contact. Neither mistake as to the complainant's age nor consent to the act by the complainant is a defense;

(g) the actor has a significant relationship to the complainant, the complainant was at least 16 but under 18 years of age at the time of the sexual contact, and:

(i) the actor or an accomplice used force or coercion to accomplish the contact;

(ii) the complainant suffered personal injury; or

(iii) the sexual abuse involved multiple acts committed over an extended period of time. (some emphasis added)


where "significant relationship is defined as:

Significant Relationship: A situation in which the actor is:

the complainant's parent, stepparent or guardian;
any of the following by blood, marriage or adoption: brother, sister, stepbrother, stepsister, first cousin, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, grandparent,
great-grandparent, great-uncle, great-aunt; or
an adult residing, intermittently or regularly, in the same dwelling as the complainant (except complainant's spouse.)

This term replaces the previous term of "intrafamilial relationship" which was more precise but which tended, especially in small communities, to raise a
presumption about the victim's identity.

Source: (http://www.mncasa.org/manuals_lit/train ... legal.html)


Mind you, this is for the lowest level of criminality where age is taken into account. Circumstances that deviate further from these quickly fall under much harsher punishment guidelines. Still, if I read this correctly, it looks to me like a couple of 13 year olds could be legally engaged in a sexual relationship in this state. Tell me that doesn't just about bounce the needle of the squick-o-meter against the peg for any parent of a young adolescent!

BTW, this replaced a fairly simple definition where the age of consent for females was 16 and for males was 18.
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Re: Now that the girls have worked up a good sweat...

Postby MimsyBorogove » Thu Aug 18, 2011 11:47 am

Cyndi FTW. God I loved her. It's not often you find a villain you can believe in, but I have every confidence that she will get out and wreak havoc around the world. I don't mind whether a character's a hero or a villain, as long as they're good at it.
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Re: Now that the girls have worked up a good sweat...

Postby Valerie » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:02 pm

Lia S wrote:The ability to consent to something requires that one is capable of understanding the implications of what one is consenting to. Consenting to producing porn and having it distributed is VERY different from consenting to sex. The first thing may come back to bite you for the rest of your life, the second is soon forgotten by the rest of the world, if they even find out about it at all. Also, the first is usually done for money, and the second usually isn't (and also is illegal for money when under 18).


This varies by country, but in the U.S., prostitution is illegal for any age. (I think there's one state that allows it, but I don't remember which one.)
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Re: Now that the girls have worked up a good sweat...

Postby Kamino Neko » Thu Aug 18, 2011 4:16 pm

Valerie wrote:This varies by country, but in the U.S., prostitution is illegal for any age. (I think there's one state that allows it, but I don't remember which one.)


Nevada. Only in brothels, and certain areas of the state. (Specifically, the less populated counties.) Clark County, where Las Vegas is situated, for instance, does not have legal prostitution - you have to go all the way to Nye County before you can go whoring without breaking the law.
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Re: Now that the girls have worked up a good sweat...

Postby Lia S » Fri Aug 19, 2011 3:47 am

Valerie wrote:
Lia S wrote:The ability to consent to something requires that one is capable of understanding the implications of what one is consenting to. Consenting to producing porn and having it distributed is VERY different from consenting to sex. The first thing may come back to bite you for the rest of your life, the second is soon forgotten by the rest of the world, if they even find out about it at all. Also, the first is usually done for money, and the second usually isn't (and also is illegal for money when under 18).


This varies by country, but in the U.S., prostitution is illegal for any age. (I think there's one state that allows it, but I don't remember which one.)


True. And I'm not even sure if here in the Netherlands the age for it is 18 or something else like 21.
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