[30 Nov 2010] Shhhh

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Postby Valerie » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:13 pm

hospi wrote:My guess is heard it, and clearly. There wasn't much sound to ruin clarity - but he would not have known which of the girls it was (he's never heard either speak, remember?) - he burst in believing that Cyndi was the one in trouble and dying.


It probably becomes more obvious when he sees that Charlotte is gushing too much blood from her neck to talk, especially as calmly as Cyndi appears to be talking.
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Postby SniperCT » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:13 pm

hospi wrote:My guess is heard it, and clearly. There wasn't much sound to ruin clarity - but he would not have known which of the girls it was (he's never heard either speak, remember?) - he burst in believing that Cyndi was the one in trouble and dying.


It's possible he heard the last part, the sending Duane to join her.

Additionally, just me, or does it look like she missed a major vein? You'd think there would be more blood, but I've never actually seen someone's throat slit that wasn't fictional XD
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Postby Valerie » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:14 pm

SniperCT wrote:
hospi wrote:My guess is heard it, and clearly. There wasn't much sound to ruin clarity - but he would not have known which of the girls it was (he's never heard either speak, remember?) - he burst in believing that Cyndi was the one in trouble and dying.


It's possible he heard the last part, the sending Duane to join her.

Additionally, just me, or does it look like she missed a major vein? You'd think there would be more blood, but I've never actually seen someone's throat slit that wasn't fictional XD


Well, she is applying pressure to it, so it might be a little tough to call.
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Postby Alice Macher » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:16 pm

Yeah, I'm thinking Charlotte may have gone into shock.

Also, her face in the second panel... yikes-a-munga, that's gonna be in my nightmares... VERY well done, Jason.
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Postby owlcake » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:21 pm

SniperCT wrote:
hospi wrote:My guess is heard it, and clearly. There wasn't much sound to ruin clarity - but he would not have known which of the girls it was (he's never heard either speak, remember?) - he burst in believing that Cyndi was the one in trouble and dying.


It's possible he heard the last part, the sending Duane to join her.

Additionally, just me, or does it look like she missed a major vein? You'd think there would be more blood, but I've never actually seen someone's throat slit that wasn't fictional XD


My guess would be that if she did hit a major vein, she would have pretty much bled out so much that her shirt would be red (black?) from all the blood by now. If she hit a major artery, she would have pulsated blood all over the storage room. I honestly think she's in shock from doing it and the pain that she didn't get very far and can still get help.

At least, I hope so. :(
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Postby naomi » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:21 pm

Damn. Like Valerie, I first thought (even hoped) the BANG was a gunshot aimed at Cyndi.

Anyway, I'm also hoping Carter heard something clearly. Maybe the rain let up just long enough that he was able to. I don't know why an FBI agent would burst into a building/room like that unless he had probable cause.
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Postby BrainOfGoo » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:21 pm

I am one of the few people on the board who has seen someone bleed to death from a neck wound**. This is what I know:

If she cut an artery, there would be massive arterial spurt. Holding her hand over the wound would be like putting your hand over a tub running at nearly full blast. There would be blood everywhere, not just running down her hands in an appropriately movie-like way. When the young man was dying, I marveled at how much his body was shaking as the blood was ejected, at full force, from from his body. That's what attracted me there in the first place: I thought he was having a seizure.

It's more likely she cut the jugular vein, which is both outside of the carotid artery and more likely to ooze, rather than spurt. That would give her time to bleed out attractively. For more on how the neck bit works, see http://bp2.blogger.com/_Ctfv1n5l1ok/Rvm ... _veins.png.


**He was a worker at a CVS. There was a robbery and his manager chased the suspect, so the young man followed as well. The thief stabbed the boss in the gut and cut the kid's throat. I was driving a car back to my then-workplace and found the manager and the kid. He died in front of me. It was an awful waste. There is never, ever, a reason to chase a thief.
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Postby lackofheart » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:24 pm

Alice Macher wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking Charlotte may have gone into shock.

Also, her face in the second panel... yikes-a-munga, that's gonna be in my nightmares... VERY well done, Jason.


I agree. However, while we're still on the art, does anyone think the scratches on Cyndi's face look like cat whiskers, or am I just strange? :oops:
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Postby sentora » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:25 pm

BrainOfGoo wrote:I am one of the few people on the board who has seen someone bleed to death from a neck wound**. This is what I know:

If she cut an artery, there would be massive arterial spurt. Holding her hand over the wound would be like putting your hand over a tub running at nearly full blast. There would be blood everywhere, not just running down her hands in an appropriately movie-like way. When the young man was dying, I marveled at how much his body was shaking as the blood was ejected, at full force, from from his body. That's what attracted me there in the first place: I thought he was having a seizure.

It's more likely she cut the jugular vein, which is both outside of the carotid artery and more likely to ooze, rather than spurt. That would give her time to bleed out attractively. For more on how the neck bit works, see http://bp2.blogger.com/_Ctfv1n5l1ok/Rvm ... _veins.png.


**He was a worker at a CVS. There was a robbery and his manager chased the suspect, so the young man followed as well. The thief stabbed the boss in the gut and cut the kid's throat. I was driving a car back to my then-workplace and found the manager and the kid. He died in front of me. It was an awful waste. There is never, ever, a reason to chase a thief.


This gives her a chance of survival if help arrives in time, right?
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Postby Valerie » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:26 pm

lackofheart wrote:
Alice Macher wrote:Yeah, I'm thinking Charlotte may have gone into shock.

Also, her face in the second panel... yikes-a-munga, that's gonna be in my nightmares... VERY well done, Jason.


I agree. However, while we're still on the art, does anyone think the scratches on Cyndi's face look like cat whiskers, or am I just strange? :oops:


Those have been my thoughts, too. They've been like that in some other panels. XD It's been annoying me a little how they seem to change direction panel-to-panel, but I'm not really sure if they're supposed to be scratches or dirt/scuff marks.
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Postby Alice Macher » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:27 pm

lackofheart wrote:However, while we're still on the art, does anyone think the scratches on Cyndi's face look like cat whiskers, or am I just strange? :oops:


Haha, no, it's not just you; I first noticed that some strips ago.
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Postby Valerie » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:27 pm

BrainOfGoo wrote:Sad story goes here.


*hugs*
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Postby lackofheart » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:29 pm

Valerie wrote:
BrainOfGoo wrote:Sad story goes here.


*hugs*


I second that.
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Postby BrainOfGoo » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:30 pm

Valerie wrote:
BrainOfGoo wrote:Sad story goes here.


*hugs*


Thank you. I do appreciate it, but it was many years ago. I had a lot of luck getting closure. In a weird coincidence my then girlfriend's coworker was this young man's aunt. I got to meet his mom, go to the funeral, and everything. I can have a bit of a clinical take on it, but there will always be a place in my heart for him.
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Postby hospi » Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:33 pm

SniperCT wrote:
hospi wrote:My guess is heard it, and clearly. There wasn't much sound to ruin clarity - but he would not have known which of the girls it was (he's never heard either speak, remember?) - he burst in believing that Cyndi was the one in trouble and dying.


It's possible he heard the last part, the sending Duane to join her.

Additionally, just me, or does it look like she missed a major vein? You'd think there would be more blood, but I've never actually seen someone's throat slit that wasn't fictional XD


The jugular is a collection of three major veins (of which only the internal and external run through the neck itself) that return deoxy'ed blood to the heart, run more to the rear of the neck than where Charlotte cut. There is a major tendon that runs down at an angle from near the corner of the jaw toward the sternum, which she much more likely to have damaged. The whole area though is rich in minor vessels that supply blood to the muscle, teeth.

Of course we don't know exactly where she has made the incision but from how she is holding her throat, and the way she exposed her neck to begin with suggests that no vital vessels were hit.
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